Biological Brethren of Jesus?

0_oFiX mEh!o_0 wrote on Thu, 22 October 2009 02:03

nald wrote on Wed, 21 October 2009 17:01


Fix Me:
lAtag MOh yAN lahat mOng talta tUngkOL sa mga kaPAtid sa LAman ni CristO....


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Nald (ADD):
dyan kayo nag kamali mga ginoo
eto hindi nyo na gayang baluktutin
malinaw na malinaw walang hiwaga..

mat 13:55-56
55 Hindi baga ito ang anak ng anluwagi? hindi baga tinatawag na Maria ang kaniyang ina? at Santiago, at Jose, at Simon, at Judas ang kaniyang mga kapatid?

maliwanag ang pagkakasulat walang hiwaga
binigyan na ng mga hudyo ng mga pangalan
Si maria na ina nya..
at may mga pangalang santiago,jose,simon ,at hudas
ewan ko sa mga ito kaititgas nya bungo
at panay ang tutol nababasa na nga ei
ang isang nakapagtataka nito ay itong si ginoong teewee
ei ang tatag ng mukha na manglait mas madami pa atang panglalait ito na ginawa kaysa sa kanyang malabong katuwiran.


56 At ang kaniyang mga kapatid na babae, hindi baga silang lahat ay nanga sa atin? Saan nga kumuha ang taong ito ng lahat ng ganitong mga bagay?


at ito ha ung mga kapatid nyang babae ay nasa kanila
(dun sa mga nagsasalitaan)
hindi kapatid sa Espiritu ang sinasabi dyan..

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Fix Me:

Ito ang talata ni Naldong Putik


Basa!


mat 13:55
55 Hindi baga ito ang anak ng anluwagi? hindi baga tinatawag na Maria ang kaniyang ina? at Santiago, at Jose, at Simon, at Judas ang kaniyang mga kapatid?



Ito "daw?" yung mga kapatid ni Cristo ayon sa mga taga ADD

Pakilala nga natin ang isa't isa sa kanila kung sino talaga sila, baka hindi nabasa sa maestra nilang si Ingkong

wahahahaha!!!


maY kaPAtid bah tALaga si CristO sa LAman??? o BiOlogical Bros??

naniniWAla ang mga ADD nah si CristO ay Dios... dBAh naLdO???

basAhin natin ang huLA tUngkOL dtO...

bAsa!

Ezekiel 44:2 (King James Version)

2Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.


hiNDi pWEde nAh ang sinABi ng Dios ay hiNdi matutuPAd dahiL God dOes Not Lies....

PApaAno bah pUmasOK ang Dios ng Israel sa saNliButan???
dBah tHru Mary's wOmb??? at ano sabi pagkAtaPos dUmaan ng Dios...

"This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut."

sAraDo nah...sO kaPAg saRadO maY makalalaBAs pa bAh??? sYemPre wala nah...kaPAg saRadO nah maY makakaPAsOk pa bah??? walA rin dBah???

kaYa ang tanga-taNga ni nAlDo nah naniniWAla sa mga tUrO ng kanyang mAestRang si IngkOng...nah INTERNATIONAL FUGITIVE...

wahahahha!!!

mAy isA pang hULA tUngkOL dtO:

Basa!

Isaiah 7:14 (King James Version)

14Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

aLAm mOh nah cGurO anO iBig sabihin ng salitaNg iMmaNuel naLdo... "God with us".

take nOte mOh..."A Son" --- ibig sabihin..."ISA"...reAd tagaLog versiOn pra makaintinDi ka...

hehehehe!!!

itO lanG naMAn ang cHaLLenge nah ibibigaY kO saYO naLdo at sa LAhat ng ADD...

Saan mababaSA sa bibLe NAh ang nakAsuLAt sa Mat.13:55 ay mga "ANAK" ni JOse at MAria???



ngaYOn isa isahin natin sa pagpaKilala ang nakAsuLAt sa Mat.13:55...


uNA: si SantiaGo...aLam naTin nah maY dalawang JAmes (SantiaGo) sa bible...(korek mE if iM wRong)

1st James is the bRother of John sOn of Zebedee...

BAsa!


Matthew 10:2 (King James Version)

2Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

kLAro nah bAH naLdO??? nexT ang ikaLAWang JAmes naMan ipaKilala natin;

2nd James is the BrOther oF Judas sON of Alpheus at ang gReek sa pangalang AlpHeus sa GREEK ay "CleoFAs"...

BAsa!

Luke 6:15-16 (King James Version)

15Matthew and Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon called Zelotes, 16And Judas the brother of James, and Judas Iscariot, which also was the traitor.

Acts 1:13 (King James Version)

13And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.


aYAn....maLIwaNAg pa sA siKAt nG ArAw ang talata....nah magkaiBA ang dalawaNg James.... iBA rin ang kaniLAng mga "AMA" at HINDI si "JOSE" nah AsaWa ni Maria....

at ang mga "INA" niLA at hiNdi si Maria nah inA ni Jesus... kUndi iBAng Maria ang tInuTuKOy.....

daHiL Kung nagkataON nah si MAria nah INa ni Jesus ang Ina ng dalAwang James nah yAn Mary the mOther oF JesUS COMMITED adUltery...w/c leads tO Her tO deAth (sTone tO death pa!).... at sa mga nakAraAng talata si MAria MasUnuRin sa kaLooBAn ng Dios...

bAsaHin NAtin uLi:

Lucas 1:38 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)

38Sinabi ni Maria: Narito ang aliping babae ng Panginoon. Mangyari sa akin ang ayon sa iyong salita. At iniwan siya ng anghel.


Luke 1:38 (New International Version)

38"I am the Lord's servant," Mary answered. "May it be to me as you have said." Then the angel left her.


sO ang UnaNg JAmes ay Ang Ama nYa aY si Zebedee...at ang ang isAng JAmes AY aNAk ni AlpHeus (gk. CleoFAs)...


sUnoD si JosE...nah aNak ng iBAng MAria hiNdi mAria naH iNA ni Jesus...

bASA!

Mark 15:40 (King James Version)

40There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;

aYAn naH namAn....ang inA ng isAng JAmes paLa ay MAry rin ang pangaLAn... at ang MAry nah itO aY maY sariLIng AsaWA hiNDi si Jose...

nAKita natin nAh ang mga BAbaEng itO ay maLAyo sA CrosS ni CristO...at nAng LUmaPit nah siLa...


bAsa!

John 19:25 (King James Version)

25Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.


sEe? kLAro dBah???... nah maY kaPAtid si MAria(inA ni JeSUs) nAH babAe nah ang pangalAn rin ay MAria....at sinO ang MAria nah itO??? asAwa sYA ni CleOphas....nAH sYAng AMA ni James at JuDAs...

sO??? ano nah??? kUng kaPAtid ni MAry ang isang Mary nAh sYang iNA ni James at Judas sO??? theY aRe "cOUsins"....


sUnod si SImon (Peter)...siNo aMA nYa???? si Jose bAH???

BAsa!

Matthew 16:15-17 (King James Version)

15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.


Matthew 16:17 (New International Version)

17Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.


kaniNo sYAng Anak si Simon(PeTer)??? anAk sYa ni Jonah hiNdi sYa aNAk ni JOSe...

sa Jn.19:25-26

BAsa!

John 19:25-27 (King James Version)

25Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.

26When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

27Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.



itO taNOng:

Bakit binigAy ni CristO si MAria nah kanYAng Ina sa pangangaLAga ni Juan??? kUng mErOn sYang mga kaPAtid sa Laman???



tKe nOte...kUng mapapaNsin mOH....hiNDi kaTolikong bibLia ginAmit kO...kUndi bibLia ng mga ANgLicano sa iBA't iBAng pRotestante...

kahit bibLia ng mga aNti-cAtholics sUmUsUporta sa Claim naMin...

aYAn...BUking yUng kasiNungaLingaN ng MAesTra nYO???...




PS:
itO yUng pag-uusaP namin ni Nald nah isAng ADD galing po ito sa friendster forum


Source: 'MCGI Workers VS. Defensor Katoliko'

JESUS TRUE GOD and TRUE MAN

Carrying of the Cross: Passion of the Christ

Jesus is True Man and True God….

"In the beginnig was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. v.14 and the Word made flesh..."(John 1:1-2;14)

Jesus took flesh through Mary we call this "Incarnation".

"The Word became flesh ". The Church calls "Incarnation" The fact that the Son of God assumed a human nature in order to accomplish our salvation in it." ( CCC # 461)

Si Cristo ay tunay na Tao at Tunay na Diyos sa Pagiging Tao ni Jesus ay Hindi nawala ang kanyang pagiging Diyos…

"Since the Word became flesh in asumming a True Humanity , Christ’s body was finite…( CCC # 476)

Jesus True Man and True God because it is " The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus is Part God and Part Man, nor does it imply that he is the result of aconfused mixture of the Divine and Human. He became Truly Man while remaining Truly God…( CCC # 464)

" The first Ecumenical Council of Nicea in 325 confessed in its Creed that the Son of God is "Begotten",not made, of the Same Substance ( Homoousios) as the Father…" ( CCC # 465)

" I and my Father are One"(John 10:30)

It is clearly states in the scriptures that Jesus is God because Jesus is One with the Father…

"Jesus said to him, Have I been with so long, and yet you have not known me Philip? He who has See me has Seen the Father; so how can you say show us the Father? (John 14:9)
"Behold, the Virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel (God is with us)." (Mat.1:23)

So therefore we conclude that Jesus is True God and True Man. He is the Begotten Son of the Father the living God…..
Continuation:

source: MCGI vs Defensor Katoliko
(Ang continuation na topic nah ito ay ang pagsagot at paliwanag natin sa kausap natin na isang Iglesia ni Cristo na si Efra.)


Ayon sa mga INCM si Cristo ay TAO

Totoo ba ito??

Hindi bakit?? Dahil ang Biblia mismo ang nagsabi na si Cristo totoong tao at totoong Dios...Si Cristo nag-claim that siya ay anak ng tao (son of man) korek!. at sa ibang talata naman siya ay nag-claim nah he is God (son of God)

kUng ang taO maY aNAk....anO yung anAK nYA??? aSo Bah??? hiNdi...
sYemPRe taO rin...

kUng ang AsO ay nagkaAnak...anO anAk nYA dBAh aSo rin??? kOrek...

kUng si CristO aNAK ng Dios... (Jn.3:16) sO, DiOs rin paLA sYA..

John 3:16 (New International Version)

16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

kUng anAK sYA ni MAry (tAo)...sYEmpre taO rin sYA...dahiL maY kaTawanG taO si CristO...

Luke 1:30-31 (New International Version)
30But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. 31You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus.


itO ang arAL nah tiNUrO nG IgLEsia kAtOlika...
(CCC sTands fOR CAtechism of the Catholic ChuRch)

bAsa!

Jesus means in Hebrew: "God saves." (CCC #430)
The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man. (CCC #464)


aNg IGLEsiAng taYO ni MAnaLO ay naniniWala nah si CristO ay tAO...

kUng mAgKAgaNun.... ang sALvatiON paLA naH nataNggaP natin aY "CHEAP"....

itO sabi ng isang EvanGiLicaL preaCher:

"if the INC doctRine is tRue that JEsUs was jUSt a man wHose life onLy bEGan in the wOmb of the VirGin MarY, then mandKind's saLvatiOn did nOt cOSt God mUch. It wAs nOT a reAL sAcrifice." (The Absurd Claims & Biggest Mistakes of the Iglesia ni Cristo; by Dr. Tino C. Ruvivar, p.70)
saBi nG INCM ang DiOS daw aY gUmawa ng taong inOsente (special man)...

aLam natinG laHAt that thE sAlvatioN we hAd is "UNIQUE"...

Hebreo 10:12-14 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)
12Ngunit pagkatapos niyang maghandog ng isang hain para sa mga kasalanan magpakailanaman, siya ay umupo sa kanang dako ng Diyos. 13Mula sa panahong iyon, siya ay naghihintay hanggang mailagay na ang tuntungan ng kaniyang mga paa ang kaniyang mga kaaway. 14Sapagkat sa pamamagitan ng paghahandog ng isang hain, ginawa niyang ganap magpakailanman ang mga pinapaging-banal.

the sAcrifIce oF JEsus on the cRoss is ONcE & foR All....

it cOSt MUch bAh sa AMa yUng sAcrificE sa kNyANg Anak???

bASA!

John 3:16 (King James Version)

16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

kAHit bUgTOng nAH anAk nYA ginAwang sAcrifice pra sa'tin... it is a GrEat sAcrifIce...

Mga Taga-Roma 8:32 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)
32Hindi niya ipinagkait ang sarili niyang Anak, kundi ipinagkaloob niya siya para sa ating lahat.
ang dOctrinE nG INCM of a pUreLy hUman JesUs CHEAPENS OUR REDEMPTION.


is Jesus cLAimS tO be GOD???

Yes!

BAsa!

Juan 10:31-33 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)

31Muli ngang dumampot ng mga bato ang mga Judio upang siya ay batuhin. 32Sinabi sa kanila ni Jesus: Maraming mabubuting gawa ang ipinakita ko sa inyo mula sa aking Ama. Alin sa mga gawang iyon ang dahilan para batuhin ninyo ako?


33Sumagot ang mga Judio sa kaniya na sinasabi: Hindi ka namin binabato dahil sa anumang mabuting gawa kundi dahil sa iyong pamumusong. Ginagawa mong Diyos ang sarili mo, ikaw na isang tao.

tHE JeWs were rigHT in recoGniZing thaT JesUS was "cLAiming to be God."
mAbuti pa itONg mga JUdiO naKAintiNdi pa sa sinAbi ni CristO....kaya babaTuhin nLA si JeSUs fOr making hiMselF eQual tO GOD... perO itONg mga aliPOres ni ManaLo at si ManaLO misMO.... hiNDi niLA naintinDihan ang sinAbi sa BIblia....biNAlUktOk ang mga nakAsuLat...


itO pa sabi ni CristO sYA misMO nag-cLaim nah DiOS sYA.

BASa!

Mateo 4:7 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)

7Sinabi sa kaniya ni Jesus: Nasusulat din naman:
Huwag mong subukin ang Panginoon mong Diyos.

at reCorded pa itO sa GosPEl oF LuKe..

Luke 4:12 (New American Standard Bible)

12And Jesus answered and said to him, "It is said, 'YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.'"



DiOS baH taLAga si CristO???

Basa!

John 1:18 (New Living Translation)
18 No one has ever seen God. But the unique One, who is himself God, is near to the Father’s heart. He has revealed God to us.
sa talataNg itO JeSUs aLreAdy eXisTed with tHE FAther... dahiL kasAMa siLa sa LanGit....

gAnda ng tRanSLatioN nah itO.... "who is hiMSelf God." klAro talga ang nakaSulat naH si CristO aY Dios...

saBi ni tOMAs...

bAsa!.

John 20:27-28 (New International Version)
27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."

28Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

ayAn...pra sa mga INC nagULat si tOmas kaYA nYA nasabi ang iYOn...

wahahahaha!!!

perO sa totOO ang mga INCM anG naGulat nAh si CristO talga aY Dios...

wahahahha!!!

1 John 5:20 (New International Version)
20We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
ayAn naH naMan....TRUE GOD and ETERNAL LIFE...

sinO bah itOng eterNAl life??

Basa!

1 John 1:1-2 (King James Version)

1 John 1
1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
aYAn naH naMAn...si CristO paLA itOng eterNAl life...

sO, the hiNdi nagkakaMALi si JoHn wHen he wRote his epistles that JesUS is God (the EterNal Life)...



tO be cONtinUed...

cONtinUAtioN....


pArt 2

hiNdi Nalng natin pag-UsaPAn ang pagiging taO ni CristO dahiL magkasaNg-aYOn taYO sa pagigiNg taO ni CristO...perO sa pagka-Dios hiNdi...

wahahahha!!!


naPAtUnayan naTin nAh ang eterNAl life aY si CristO....nah KASAMA nYA ng AMA....


ngaYOn ipaGpaTuLOy natin ang talaKayan....



tHE Pre-ExisTence oF Jesus....


John 1:1-3 (King James Version)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

i thiNk INCM taNggAp naH si CristO talaga ang WORD sa Jn.1:1...

perO sa kaniLang bErSyon aY ganitO...

"in the beginning He (Jesus) WASN'T there yet as a "wORd" an "ideA" in God's minD. He WASN'T there with God, He WASN'T GOd."
kLArong bALUktOt nah bALUKtOt baLUktOt pa sa kUba ng tURo ni MaNALO at mga INC MiniSters...


paLitan naTin yUNg "Word" sa pangaLAng "Jesus" sa Jn.1:1:1In the beginning was JESUS, and JESUS was with God, and JESUS was God...


aYan..klaRo nAh... sinO kaYA ang sinUngaLing si JoHn nah BeLoved aPOstle oF JESUs oR si MAnaLO nah dini-gRAde si CristO & mAkes oUr reDemPtioN cHeap...???

hehehehe!!

itO malAking tuLong ang traNSlation ng biBLE nah itO...

bASa!

John 1:1-3 (New Living Translation)

John 1
Prologue: Christ, the Eternal Word
1 In the beginning the Word already existed.
The Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2 He existed in the beginning with God.
3 God created everything through him,
and nothing was created except through him.


aYan..naH naMAn...mas kLAro nah sa talata....tNX sa mga trAnsLAtOR ng biBle nah iYAn...bUking ang mga paMbAluktOt nah tURo ng INCM...


In the beginning was the Word. ---- this verse wiLL lead us bAcK tO the cReaTioN sTory...

The Word was with God ---- ang klaRong kLAro that JeSus aLreadY ExisTed with the Father....

kaYA nUng laLangin Ng Dios ang taO... Gen.1:26

BAsa!

Genesis 1:26 (King James Version)

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

sinO bah ang kaUsaP ng Dios kUng sYA lang mag-isa ang nagLAlaNg sa saNLiButan??? anO kaYa paLAgay ng mga INC sa Gen.1:26... SIra uLO ang Dios nah makiPAg-Usap sa SaRiLi???

wahahahaha!!! we aLL kNOw that God is PerFecT... kUng sira uLO pa ang Dios hiNdi nAH sYa PErfecT... siMple Logic..



itO gReeK lessON taYO..

baSA!

John 1:1
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος.
aY sOwEe..hiNdi paLa maBAsa...

itO yung eNglish...

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

ang pRoblEma nG isa dtO (Efra) aY yuNg grEek word nah "HO" nah kaTumbAS sa saLitang "THE" in enGlish...

itO yuNg meANing sa "THE"
the actual the real = αληθινός η / alithinos i

the begotten = γεννητός / gennitos

itO rin yUng sa iSang meaning.

ὁ,ra {ho}
1) the 2) this, that, these, etc.


pero nakaLimUtan ng mga INC ang sAlitang itO "εἰμί"
εἰμί,v {i-mee'}
1) to be, to exist, to happen, to be present

kUng sa eNGlish pa itO ay ang salitaNg "WAS"

itO pa isa:

1510 Original Word
eiÎmið
Transliterated Word
eimi
Translated Word
I was


tHE gRreeK vERb is eQuivaLent of the eNgLish vErb "tO bE".

the wORd "WAS" in the verse was talking abOUt "EXISTENCE"...

kaYA hiNDi maLi si JoHn nang iSUlat nYA yUNg GoSPel nYA... perO ang mga INC ang ginAwang sinUngaling ay si JohN...

nakakatawa...

wahahahah!!!


si CristO bah nag-cLAim oF His pre-existenCe???YES!

BAsa!


John 8:58 (King James Version)

58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


John 8:58 Greek bible
εἶπεν αὐτοῖς Ἰησοῦς, Ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν, πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι ἐγὼ εἰμί.
εἰμί,v {i-mee'}
1) to be, to exist, to happen, to be present

it hAs tHe sAMe MeaNing...yUng "WAS" --- this wOrd tAlks aBout exisTence...


bEfOre aBrahAM hE (JeSus) aLreadY eXistEd...


in this vERse aLSo JesuS cLaiMing tO be God...

sO, JesuS is God...

bAkit "I AM" aNG ginAmit ni JeSus???

bEcAuse the jEws can reCognizeD it ImMediateLY as tHE NAme OF GOD YHWH (Yahweh)... in ExODus 3:14

bAsA!

Exodus 3:13-14 (King James Version)

13And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

bibLical pRoofs that JesUS already eXisted with thE Father...


Micah 5:2 (King James Version)

2But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.


John 1:1 (King James Version)
1In the beginning was the Word.

John 8:58 (King James Version)

58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

John 17:5 (King James Version)

5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.


Juan 17:5 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)
5Ngayon, Ama, luwalhatiin mo ako sa iyong sarili ng
kaluwalhatiang taglay ko nang kasama ka bago pa likhain
ang sanlibutan.



tO bE cONtinUed:

cONtNuatiON...

pArT 3.




itO nah ang sasaGoT sa laHAt ng taNong ng mga INC...


aNg saLitaNg "INCARNATION" naH sYAng aYaw nLAng taNggaPin.... kahit kLarONg klAro ang sinAsabi sa bibLia....

hiNDi kaSi aLAm ntONg mga INC o i thiNk aLAm niLA itO perO pinikit lang mata nLA....

aYAw kasi makita yuNg katotoHanan...


totOOng walaNG mababasang INCARNATION sa biblia bUT the idEa/essence is theRe...

tinAtawaAg itO sa lAtin nah:

IMPLICATIO - hindi mababaSa lEtra pOR lEtra bUt the ideA ay nAsa mga talata...

ang aNg ikaLAwa aY ang:

DEFINITUS - mababaSa letrA pOR lEtRa at ang meaNing kaSAma naH...


at pRa sa mga INC ay si mANAlo naSA cateGorY rin sa IMPLICATIO..hiNDI mababaSa letRA pOr lEtra peRO pra sa kniLA ang saLita sa biblia ay naKatUkOy kay ManAlo daw...

wahahahhaa!!!

aNg INCARNATION ay naSa caTegOry ng IMPLICATIO.

maS kapanipaniWala pa ang INCARNATION kYSa kaY mANAlO...

wahahahaha!!!


aNO bAh itONg INCARNATION??

basA!

Latin (in=in or into, caro, carnis=flesh) meaning "to make into flesh" or "to become flesh"

aYAn kLAro nah cGurO yUNg meaNing...


siNO bAH ang naG-INCARNATE o nagKataWang taO???
bAsa!

John 1:14 (King James Version)

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Juan 1:14 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)

14Nagkatawang-tao ang Salita at nanahang kasama natin. Namasdan namin ang kaniyang kaluwalhatian, ang kaluwalhatian ng bugtong na Anak ng Ama. Ang Salitang ito ay puspos ng biyaya at katotohanan.

it is uNdeniaBLe that the WorD made fLEsh is Jesus... the EMMANUEL --- God wiTh us...

Isaiah 7:14 (New Living Translation)
14 All right then, the Lord himself will give you the sign. Look! The virgin[a] will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel (which means ‘God is with us’).

sA oLd teStameNt kaHit ang Dios nagkaTAwang taO...dhiL sa DiOS ay waLang iMposibLE...

bAsa!

Luke 1:37 (New International Version)
37For nothing is impossible with God."
sa oLd teStamEnt mbabaSa bAH natin kUNg nagkatawANg taO baH ang Dios???

merON!

BAsa!

Genesis 18:1-33 (New International Version)

The Three Visitors
1 The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. 2 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.3 He said, "If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, [a] do not pass your servant by. 4 Let a little water be brought, and then you may all wash your feet and rest under this tree. 5 Let me get you something to eat, so you can be refreshed and then go on your way—now that you have come to your servant."
"Very well," they answered, "do as you say."

6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah. "Quick," he said, "get three seahs [b] of fine flour and knead it and bake some bread."7 Then he ran to the herd and selected a choice, tender calf and gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it. 8 He then brought some curds and milk and the calf that had been prepared, and set these before them. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree.

9 "Where is your wife Sarah?" they asked him.
"There, in the tent," he said.

10 Then the LORD [c] said, "I will surely return to you about this time next year, and Sarah your wife will have a son."Now Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent, which was behind him. 11 Abraham and Sarah were already old and well advanced in years, and Sarah was past the age of childbearing. 12 So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, "After I am worn out and my master [d] is old, will I now have this pleasure?"

13 Then the LORD said to Abraham, "Why did Sarah laugh and say, 'Will I really have a child, now that I am old?' 14 Is anything too hard for the LORD ? I will return to you at the appointed time next year and Sarah will have a son."

15 Sarah was afraid, so she lied and said, "I did not laugh."
But he said, "Yes, you did laugh."

Abraham Pleads for Sodom
16 When the men got up to leave, they looked down toward Sodom, and Abraham walked along with them to see them on their way. 17 Then the LORD said, "Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? 18 Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him. 19 For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is right and just, so that the LORD will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him."
20 Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous 21 that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

22 The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the LORD. [e] 23 Then Abraham approached him and said: "Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare [f] the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it? 25 Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge [g] of all the earth do right?"

26 The LORD said, "If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake."

27 Then Abraham spoke up again: "Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes, 28 what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city because of five people?"
"If I find forty-five there," he said, "I will not destroy it."

29 Once again he spoke to him, "What if only forty are found there?"
He said, "For the sake of forty, I will not do it."

30 Then he said, "May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?"
He answered, "I will not do it if I find thirty there."

31 Abraham said, "Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?"
He said, "For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it."

32 Then he said, "May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?"
He answered, "For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it."

33 When the LORD had finished speaking with Abraham, he left, and Abraham returned home.

heheehe!! medYO maHaba-haBA yUng talata...

si AbraHAm nakipaG-uSap sa Dios... pinaghanDaan Pa nYA itO ng pagkain mga 1st Class fOOd pa.... eh kUng ang Dios hiNDi pa nagkaTAwang taO paaNO sYA makakain sa inihAnda ni AbRahaM at SarAh??? sO, God tOoK a Human fOrm... tinAtawAg itONg INcaRnatioN...

the inCarNAtioN means that God cAMe tO eArth aNd tOOk on hUman nature aNd bEcAme a reAL hUman bEing liKE yOu aNd mE...
hehehhe!!!

JesUS oF NAzAreth waS "God inCarNAte"...hE waS a reAL flesH-anD-bLood hUman bEing, bUT he is MORE thaN jUSt a MAn.. JesUS waS God in a HUman fORm...
bASa!

Colossians 2:9 (King James Version)

9For in him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Colossians 2:9 (New Living Translation)
9 For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body.

ayAn verY kLArO.... wahahahaha!!!


aNg INCARNATION bah ay iMbentO ng mga kaToliKO lang bah???

hehehe!!! acTuallY aNg oRiginaL naH nagtURO nitO aY ang IglesiA kAtoLikA... at SANG-AYON namaN ang ibAng PROTEsTante tuNgkOL sa iNCarnaTioN...at hiNDi lang mga bASta-BAsta nah pRostesTAnte ang sUmang-aYOn kUndi mGa siKAt nah PrOtestAnt scHoLArs at theOLogians....
nOon sa hiNDi pa nagtaYO si ManALo ng kNyang bersYOn ng iglesia... ay ISa sYAng MEtHOdista...anO Bah itiNurO ng mga MetHOdista???

tuRo niLA naH si CristO ay DIOS.... wahahaha!!! at si MAnALO at laBAs talagA aNg uGAt sa Liig sa pag-preAch nYA nah si CristO ay Dios....

wahahahaha!!!


bEcaUse JesUS alreAdy existEd with the FatHEr... sa mga sinAbi nYA nang nanDitO sYA sa LuPA itO:

gagaMitin natin yUng paBoritOng traNslation ng bibLe ng INC

basA!

Luke 19:10 (Lamsa Translation)
10 For the Son of man came to seek and save that which was lost.

Matthew 20:28(Lamsa Translation)

28 Just as the Son of man did not come to be ministered to, but to minister, and to give his life as a salvation for the sake of many.
John 10:10 (Lamsa Translation)

10 A thief does not come, except to steal and kill and destroy, I have come that they might have life, and have it abundantly.


Romans 8:3 (Lamsa Translation)

3 For the law was weak through the weakness of the flesh, so God sent his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin, in order to condemn sin by means of his flesh.

Mga Taga-Roma 8:3 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)
3Ito ay sapagkat ang kautusan ay mahina sa pamamagitan ng makalamang kalikasan, kaya ito ay walang kapangyarihan. Isinugo ng Diyos ang sarili niyang anak na nasa anyo ng taong makasalanan upang maging hain para sa kasalanan. Sa ganitong paraan, sa laman ay hinatulan na niya ang kasalanan.

ayAn..kLaRO nah Naman nah si CristO eksistEdO with the Father at nag-iNCarnatE... kaYA ang sabi ni PablO sa taga-Roma aY: "Isinugo ng Diyos ang sarili niyang Anak na nasa anyo ng tao"


sa mga nakAraAng talAta ang sinAbi ni CristO ay "I came", "I come" hiNdi nYA siNAbi nah "I was BORN"... at alAm nAtin Nah si CristO ay mataLiNO... so mAruNOng sYAng mag-cOmposeD ng seNtence... at hiNdi sinuNGaLing si CristO nang sinAbi nYA ang mga iYOn...

sO, kUng maLi si CristO at taMa ang mgA INC....lalaBAs aT kUng magkaGAnun si CristO aY sinUNGALing..



bAKit ang sinAbi ni CristO ay "I CaME" saAn sYA gaLing???

basA!

Juan 3:13 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)
13Walang pumaitaas sa langit maliban sa kaniya na bumabang mula sa langit Maliban sa Anak ng Tao na nasa langit.
John 3:13 (King James Version)

13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

ayAn naH Naman ang kLAro nah nMan...hehehehe!!! "NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, BUT HE THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN."
walANg TAONG makakaAKyat sa LAngit kUndi si CristO naH gaLing LAngit... tHis versE pRoves that Jesus is God... He hAs the right tO AKYAT uP tO Heaven.... aNd HE has the rigHt tO cOme DoWn here oN eaRth....

itO pa ang sinABi ni Pablo sa taga CorintO...

1 Corinthians 15:47 (King James Version)

47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
1 Corinthians 15:47 (Lamsa Translation)
47 The first man is of the earth, earthly; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

hehehehe!!! kLAro dBAH??? Lord fRom heaven.... 2nd mAn dahiL Jesus was inCarnatE at tHAt time....


baKit kaYA itONg si eFra ay pUrO liKo2x at idadaMay pa ang Trinity??? dahiL ipit sYA sa ChristOLOgy nating mga kaTolikO...

whahahaha!!!

dahiL kaPAg pag-UUsApan talaga natin yUng ChristOLOgy taYOng mga katOliKO mag-fofOCus kaY CristO lamaNg.... kaPAg tRinitY naMan fOcus Naman dUn....


awhahahaha!!!

baKa sa susUnOd tataLAkayin natin yung tRinity.... kUng papaAno naging IISA ang AMa, Anak at Espiritu Santo.



ahahahaha!!!

tO be cOntinUed:


cOntiNuatioN

paRt 4

tiNAtaMAd nah akONg magpOSt kaYA...uUmpisan nah natin ang pag-eeXamine ni eFra at uuMpisahan natin sa PAggiBA yUng mga bALuKtOt pa sa kUba nah natuTUnAn nYa sa mga miniStrO nYA....


hehehehhe!!!


at maRarami nah rin yUng talata binigaY ni Br.Jay CFD sayO kaYA nO need tO rePAste it here...


itO yUng AssiGnMent mOh eFra pakisaGot lang:


1. Why dOes the bibLe call Him God?

2. Why dOes the biBLe talk aBout Jesus' pre-existeNce?

3. WhY dOEs the bibLE saY tHAt JesUS is thE cReatOr?

4. wHy did JesUS saY "I came fRom heaven..."?

5. Why did Jesus sPEak oF His pAst gLory with thE Fahter in heAven??

6. Why dOes the biBLe saY the Father seNt Him tO the Earth?

7. whY dOes JEsus HAve the SAme names/titLEs as God the Father?

8. wHy dOes Jesus have pOwer tO fORgive sins?

9. wHy dOes the biBle tElls us tO wOrship the Son?

dtO mUna akO....